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Strangest but Truest Posts of 2008 in TheBody.com's "Ask the Experts" Forums

January 12, 2009

We're nearly 30 years into the HIV pandemic, yet a shocking number of people still appear not to know the first thing about HIV. We get to see some of that ignorance firsthand in our "Ask the Experts" forums, where we're sometimes amazed at just how paranoid some folks are about whether they've been exposed to HIV.

We scoured our "Ask the Experts" forums and nominated 10 posts we feel are the "best of the worst" of 2008 (or the worst of the worst, depending on how you look at it). They're some of the oddest, most nonsensical questions we've seen people ask about HIV this year. Some are shocking, some are sad, many are hilarious -- and they're all reminders of how far we still have to go to educate the world about HIV.

Hundreds of readers like you voted on which of the 10 finalists represented the most bizarre post from our "Ask the Experts" forums during the past year. Each post was rated from 1 (not strange) to 5 (extremely strange). We then tallied up the votes, with a rating of 5 worth five points, and a rating of 1 worth one point.

The "Winner" (a.k.a. the Loser)

Ziploc: It Keeps the Freshness in (and, Apparently, the HIV)
(Total Points: 3,454)
Two weeks ago, I masturbated using two Ziploc plastic bags. Now I have a fever and my throat is sore. Did I give myself HIV?

The Final Nine

Here's how the nine other finalists shook out:

Attack of the Errant Toilet-Seat Pubic Hair
(Total Points: 3,290)
Before using a toilet in a public restroom, I noticed a pubic hair on the seat. I used some toilet paper to try nudging it into the bowl, but instead it fell the wrong way and landed on my foot -- it actually touched flesh, since I was wearing flip-flops at the time! Could I have gotten HIV?

Well, This Is Quite a Pickle I've Gotten Myself Into
(Total Points: 3,278)
Can I get HIV -- or any virus, for that matter -- by masturbating with a pickle, a bottle or something similar?

Why Women Don't Like Laundromats: Reason #55
(Total Points: 3,268)
I found a used pair of panties at the laundromat. They were unwashed, and there was a spot of dried vaginal secretion on them. Can I get any sexually transmitted diseases from licking the spot or putting my penis on the dried secretions?

Just Another Day at the Watering Hole
(Total Points: 3,120)
I was in a lake the other day when I came across two men masturbating each other underwater. I was 18 feet away, and at some point I noticed that some semen had floated over and settled on my leg. I immediately removed the semen with water and sand, but could I still have become infected with HIV?

Waiter, There's a Virus in My Soup
(Total Points: 3,116)
While eating at a restaurant recently, a small piece of my food fell off my plate and onto the table. I picked it up and ate it. There was no sign of blood on the table, but if someone with HIV had bled on it, could I have become infected?

Is HIV Risk Afoot?
(Total Points: 3,064)
As I was walking through the mall, I stepped in a small pool of fresh blood. If the blood was HIV positive and I tracked it into my home, would my family be at risk for HIV? What if someone walked barefoot near my bloody shoes, stood in the shower, dropped the soap on the shower floor and then used the soap?

When I Went to a Dressing Room, Did I Try on HIV?
(Total Points: 3,027)
I went to the mall recently and tried on some clothes in a dressing room. As I was trying different things on, I noticed there were a few spots of dried snot on the wall. As I kept looking at the walls, I noticed a dried spot of what looked like blood. I didn't touch it. However, after picking up my sweatshirt and putting it back on, I noticed a few small, red spots (possibly blood) on the chair where I had laid it. If those spots were blood, and they had HIV in them, could they have rubbed off on my sweatshirt and then onto my face as I put the sweatshirt on, thus putting me at risk for HIV?

Oh, You Want the HIV? That's in Aisle Four
(Total Points: 3,018)
I used a shopping cart during a recent trip to the grocery store, and also borrowed a pen while I was in the checkout line. Then, when I was on my way out, I bit my lip so hard it started bleeding, and I touched the open wound. If the shopping cart or the pen had HIV on it, could I have become infected when I touched my bleeding lip?

Worst. HIV Professor. Ever.
(Total Points: 2,975)
I am a new nursing student. My professor says that people with HIV or hepatitis B must be placed in an isolation ward when they're admitted to a hospital. She also says that HIV can be caught by touching sheets that are wet with an HIV-positive person's urine. I'm having trouble believing her, but could she really be correct?


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Reader Comments:

Comment by: Jim Adams (Louisville, KY) Sun., Jan. 18, 2009 at 9:04 am EST
Because this site is hosting a contest for the most bizarre/ignorant postings of the year, I feel strongly that most of these questions are being submitted as a joke by people who use this site regularily.

Comment by: Kathy (Saint Petersburg, Florida) Thu., Jan. 15, 2009 at 6:09 pm EST
If these people actually read this website they would not have to ask the HIV experts these absurdly ridiculous questions. The HIV doctors would have more time to answer serious questions for people who are actually living with this disease. I've been positive for over 20 years, and would like to see this country take a proactive approach like Brazil posting billboards everywhere about HIV transmission and safe sex. Brazil learned from us that our approach in educating people about HIV wasn't working. They have reduced the number of infections dramatically. We could learn a thing or two from Brazil.

Comment by: DANBRAZ (Palm Springs, CA) Thu., Jan. 15, 2009 at 2:04 pm EST
REF: (Comment by: Tom McElroy (San Francisco) Fri., Dec. 19, 2008 at 6:11 pm EST) Unfortunatly Tom McElroy's comment does not have to be limited HIV. If you have ever travelled outside the States and spoken intimately with a foreign national, one of the first questions they ask is "with your country's vast wealth, how is it that you are so uninformed"?

Comment by: Snargosog (United Kingdom) Thu., Jan. 15, 2009 at 9:31 am EST
24h Online Broadcasting Porn Movies and Short Videos... http://lesbians-in-action.blogspot.com/

Comment by: Steve (Sydney, Australia) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 2:47 pm EST
I have a bridge in Sydney for sale. It is grey in color, and is in good order, lightly used with only one prior owner. I have named it the Sydney Harbour Bridge, because it is in Sydney and it extends over the harbour. Bidding can start at any price, but I can tell you it has a reserve of only $1. Send your bids to iamgullibleandbelieveanything@imighthaveHIV.com

Comment by: Frieda (BC Canada) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 1:48 pm EST
This article is funny but we tell people there is no such thing as a stupid question. If people don't ask these kinds of questions we may assume that everyone understands HIV. We deal with a lot of ignorance in northern BC but the rate of infection is not going down. Education, education, education. That's the key

Comment by: Counselor Kari (Lehigh Valley PA) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 1:10 pm EST
These posts are just a constant reminder how important HIV Prevention Education still is, and will always be! If only we could get our governments to understand the needs more, but who knows, maybe some of the government personel are the ones asking such questions! **SIGH**

Comment by: Raymond Krystyniak (Seattle, WA) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 11:53 am EST
I will admit that when I've seen these questions i was truly amazed. However I am firm on my belief that the only truly stupid question is the one not asked. They, at the very least, are posing their questions to the best source for a truthful answer. Maybe the best approach is to answer their questions without posting them in this helpful newsletter.

Comment by: Jeffrey anderson (cleveland, Ohio) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 11:08 am EST
I would much rather be infected with HIV, than to go through life asking such ridiculous questions with much ignorance...these people should be the ones' that need to be educated.

Comment by: Steve Skeete (Bridgetown, Barbados) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 8:58 am EST
If this subject was not so serious, I would be tempted to believe that someone made all this up just for laughs. Since no one in their right mind could be so cruel or heartless, these are the absolutely most incredible questions on HIV I have come across, so far. I am scratching my head and asking myself are these guy for real? I mean "trying on AIDS in the dressing room? With this amount of ignorance around and abounding we are in serious trouble and that is no joke!

Comment by: Ruth Shabalala (Joburg: SA) Tue., Jan. 13, 2009 at 1:35 am EST
This is seriously mad considering that one actually had enough effort to sit down and post such ludicrous rubbish!

Comment by: glen (Adelaide, South Australia) Mon., Jan. 12, 2009 at 10:30 pm EST
reading some of these, I just think .. "not enough money is being spent on education"... We can't have a go at them for asking these questions (however stupid), because if they don't ask, they obviously won't learn.. and we'll just have more mis/un informed people out there.

Comment by: DEEVA (nyc) Mon., Jan. 12, 2009 at 9:29 pm EST
FROM THE ASSININE QUESTIONS POSED TO THE EXPERTS IT SHOWS HOW IGNORANT MOST AMERICANS ARE ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION OF HIV! NO WONDER POSITIVE PEOPLE ARE VIEWED WITH FEAR AND LOATHING! I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT AFTER 25 YRS AND COUNTING, PEOPLE JUST DON'T WANT TO KNOW ...OR ARE JUST STUPID! SAVE RYAN WHITE FUNDING FOR EDUCATION AND USE IT FOR IMPROVED SERVICES FOR POSITIVE PERSONS....

Comment by: Greg Kelebonye (Gaborone, Botswana) Mon., Jan. 12, 2009 at 8:57 am EST
Getting HIV from a plastic bag or from a bottle?! Can anything be more bizzare? I guess the ludicrous questions can only mean one thing - and you can almost feel the seriousness overlaying some of them, suggesting the people who asked were terribly spooked by the prospect of HIV infection, that more education is needed. Education to change attitudes and destroy myths that give birth to such questions....and imaginations.

Comment by: wws1445 (Washington, DC) Sat., Jan. 10, 2009 at 6:58 pm EST
It's so sad in this day and age that people cas still be so ignorant and misinformed when it comes to AIDS and HIV infection.

Comment by: Karen Fri., Jan. 9, 2009 at 2:52 pm EST
Someone's worried that they might have given themselves HIV?!?! LMAOOOO... I can't stand it. If I'm ever feeling low, and I need a good, hearty laugh, "a pick-me-up" so to speak, I will return to the forums to get it. I'm not sure if the questions are legit? No one can possibly be worried that they would have infected themselves! I think my second favorite is the one about the pube, lol.

Comment by: Monametsi Chapman (Gaborone , Botswana) Thu., Jan. 8, 2009 at 1:43 am EST
We do not become professors only in our own eyes but also to those of our people.When we teach we should like feedback and these questions are feedback. Uncut, unrehearsed so let us focus our teaching. The world is not where we professionals are so let us slow down and bring the rest of us in. What good is our prevention if it is thoroughly academic and the understanding and practice of it is so far behind. It humbles some of us who are paid to Inform,educate and communicate. Let's not say how far down there they are but may be "our job is still needed". I somehow like the nominee #6. The guy is just funny. God gave him a twisted mind and he is using it.

Comment by: Stacia Scherich (San Francisco, CA) Wed., Dec. 31, 2008 at 12:11 pm EST
I work on the same hotline as Tom, and believe me he is right about us getting these almost unbelievable questions every day of the week. We have gotten the "Can I get 'AIDS' from..." question in reference to: a basketball; a tree; a McDonald's Happy Meal; a potentially semen-covered doorknob; frozen food...the list goes on and on. As regards this competition, however, the clear winner is the Ziploc baggie masturbation one. It's still making me laugh even as I type this!!

Comment by: Tuliplover (Baltimore MD) Tue., Dec. 30, 2008 at 10:36 am EST
Well, I'll take this as encouragement for all of us who work in prevention and education. . . sometimes you feel discouraged and wonder, am I needed in the world? Is my work really of value? And these posts are saying to all of us, uhhhhhh, YEAH!

Comment by: Tom McElroy (San Francisco) Fri., Dec. 19, 2008 at 6:11 pm EST
I work on an HIV/AIDS hotline, and don't find any of these ignorant, or bizarre, or funny. We get this crap in every day, year after year. (I first worked an AIDS specific hotline in 1985, but nothing changes.) No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. Or their stubborn stupidity. "I don't want to know, don't tell me" is as American as apple pie.

Comment by: Mimi (Seattle WA) Mon., Dec. 15, 2008 at 5:23 pm EST
What a damn professor? I wonder how he climbed up the ladder..ummm maybe she is one of those who fake their degrees? People like her should go to hell! How dare she isolate a HIV patient client when admitted to hospital. HIV is not TB, not contagious & why is she misleading students? She has her own stigma around HIV & she is teaching at the wrong place. Why is she misleading students that you can catch HIV through urine? I am so overwhelmed to hear this... a professor.

Comment by: Jane Meme (Meru, Kenya) Mon., Dec. 15, 2008 at 9:45 am EST
Yes, really sad, this!!! Who should be blamed for this level of ignorance? Surely there is enough info out there if these guys bothered to look or listen. It breaks my heart that these guys are educated folks who can read and have access to the internet. What would a poor, illiterate 82 old grandma who has nursed her daughters till they passed on from HIV related complications and is now taking care of 3 HIV positive children think of these people and their qns? I feel for these guys but again, they form part of the wider cycle that continues to stigmatize HIV infected people. Can you imagine what any one of these guys would do if they actually came into contact/touched a person living with HIV? Maybe they would cut off that part of their bodies to avoid "infection".

Comment by: Mboya David (Kenya) Mon., Dec. 15, 2008 at 7:02 am EST
The questions sound like comedy. One cannot imagine that we can ask such questions when HIV has been with us for several decades!

Comment by: NewbieInOrlando (Orlando) Sun., Dec. 14, 2008 at 10:45 am EST
As stupid and funny as these questions are, I think this poll is a bad idea. The idea here is to educate, inform, and provide a forum for people to ask questions that they might be embarassed to ask or have nobody to ask. If we shame these people for asking ignorant questions and call attention to these people, we run the risk of letting ignorance run rampant. This website has been an incredible source of information and support for me, I would hate to see it become a place of ridicule. I won't be voting on these questions. These questions should be seen as an alarm bell that we are not doing a good job of getting the correct information to the people.

Comment by: Chayil V (Natchitoches) Sat., Dec. 13, 2008 at 3:04 pm EST
Are u serious where are these people and do they read and know how when why? Apparently not. I hope for their sake that they were only kidding, beause these are some strange incidents and i am saddened by this, that although the virus has been around a long time and many advancements have been made and all the information available via computer, book or magazine, people are still in the dark about the ways of actually contracting the virus.

Comment by: Minnie Mouse (Berlin, Germany) Fri., Dec. 12, 2008 at 9:10 am EST
I'm not at all surprised by the "Worst HIV Professor ever". I am an oldtimer. Many is the time that I have seen that strange look in the eyes of medical practitioners and I am not only talking about the 1980's, but even recently. Of course I'm not shy or averse to mentioning it right away. When confronted with discrimination -- speak up. I also leave the office right away and report them to the local AIDS center to save others from having to suffer through the ignorance. Unfortunately, ignorance still abounds...

Comment by: Nelson Otwoma (Nairobi, Kenya) Fri., Dec. 12, 2008 at 8:59 am EST
HIV is in the world and the world knows it not. People seem to be so scared of HIV that they don' even want to read about it! Sad...

Comment by: Eddy (United Kingdom) Fri., Dec. 12, 2008 at 5:46 am EST
Yes, when I see such questions as these each week on the bulletin I too have wondered if they are not all practical jokes. It's hard to believe that people could still be that ignorant! Maybe it is that people are not ignorant of HIV, that, in fact, they are extraordinarily frightened of it! They are so terrified of it that they are close to developing a kind of phobia, seeing possible infection where none exists whatsoever - such as the guy who is so concerned about HIV that he even feels such guilt about masturbating that he convinced himself the plastic bags he used during masturbation may have given him HIV! Young people these days do not have a bright future to look forward to. They are terrified by HIV. They realise we are poisoning the earth and that continued global warming will lead to catastrophe. And now the world economy is in melt-down. I feel so sorry for young people today.

Comment by: AL (Chicago) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 8:36 pm EST
Not Strange. Not even Extremely Strange. Just Funny as hell. Bottles, Pickles, baggies, pubes,sniffy undies. Somebody must be kidding. Or highly uninformed. But the 1st item really is scary. How many people will walk away from that training with that distorted notion? Well, makes me feel normal and sane to know better.

Comment by: brad (illinois) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 3:47 pm EST
none of them are strange, just uninformed, ignorant, or plain old stupid. The later is probaby more true since they have access to this site and all of the good information.

Comment by: Robert Moseley (San Diego, CA) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 2:48 pm EST
I'm far from being an expert on HIV. With a prevalence rate at 25% in the gay community and around 600,000 infected African Americans underscores the serious nature of the ignorance about HIV. It is indeed tragic that complacency, denial and lack of personal responsibility are major factors contributing to this epidemic. After 35 years you would think people would know something about HIV.

Comment by: Marcos (Chicago) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 2:18 pm EST
It is so sad.

Comment by: Robert (Edmonton AB, Canada) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 2:12 pm EST
While some of the questions are beyond bizarre, I am not at all shocked that this level of ignorance still exists. I have been working in the field for over 10 years and have had many similar questions. What really makes me laugh is the seriousness with which some actually make these myths into statements of fact and adamantly defend their beliefs. After 26 years of continuous education efforts in North America, we haven't gained a foot...hell, not an inch. I believe it speaks a great deal about how we teach our families about sexual health and the multi-faceted over simplified transmission of infections of any kind. Everything about our genitals and bodily secretions is so taboo, so awful, we can't even discern the difference between a possible risk factor and complete illogical fear.

Comment by: Richard (RWC, CA USA) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 11:23 am EST
It amazes me that with all the billions of dollars we have supposedly spent on education to inform people that there are still such paranoid, uniformed pockets of people out there. How truly sad. Makes you wonder if that money allocated towards educating the public really gets there or is it lining someone's pocket??

Comment by: Christohper Garrett (Houston Texas) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 11:19 am EST
It's so amazing to read these comments of people. If they are so worried about getting HIV/AIDS then research it and know the facts. I had some guy tell me that he wouldn't kiss me cause he could get it that way. You would think he would of had more facts then this. And the worst thing is his brother died from AIDS. I gave him some information to read, hopefully he did. Come on we need to do more to educate people....If we did then we could maybe start getting this virus under control.

Comment by: Tim Fountain (Dallas, TX) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 9:24 am EST
People always underwhelm me!

Comment by: OJB (Washington, DC) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 9:01 am EST
To piggyback on the comment by Angela Lawrence in South Berwich, Maine. Many of these have to be practical jokers. I really don't think the world could be that ignorant in this day of the HIV virus. I too am seeing less HIV information and education which I believe largely is contributed to the funding cuts taking place these days. Hopefully, someone within our new administration will look at how important HIV funding is and the education of people from university professors to the person living on the street is very important.

Comment by: Damian Douglas (Wayne, NJ) Thu., Dec. 11, 2008 at 7:06 am EST
Religious forces in our country have done a super jop at blocking very important information from being diseminated concerning health issues that could have a positive impact on our young people and those who are less than informed about HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases. I teach in a school that blocks certain portions of web sites that should be read by our students. Instead, I find myself second-guessing what I am allowed to tell a student whenever a question of this nature arises. Could this be one of the reasons that young people are being infected at much higher rates than other populations? I would like to think that religious people could care a little more about those already living and about our young people in general rather than sit in judgment and allow people to die.

Comment by: Angela Lawrence (South Berwick, Maine) Wed., Dec. 10, 2008 at 11:03 pm EST
Some of these definitely seem like they were written and sent in by practible jokers. If any of them were serious questions then we need to back up and start over with our awareness and basic HIV101 programs. I see less and less HIV information in public places these days, and hardly ever see the educational events and opportunities advertised in local media venues as they were a few years ago. Are we forgetting that HIV is still a huge health issue in THIS country? These questions show how badly we need to have a National AIDS Strategy right here in The USA.

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